. >> the pastor said he's not saying mitt romney has to go further right. he didn't like his point of view necessarily on abortion, but he said if he stuck with rape, incest, life of the mother and skrus pouned his fist -- does that change it? >> no, there's a reason the romney camp has been trying to say this election is about the economy. we heard this during 2010. this is a libertarian argument about it's the economy. about reducing the deficit and debt. virtually every poll. who's better equipped to deal with the deficit and debt. the more they play to the religious right on social issues, the more they risk alienaing these centrist voters. >> did you disagree? >> absolutely. the latest polls show that people trust obama more now with the economy. this economy issue solely is a losing issue for romney as the economy improves, but also it fails to reck thiz people care about other things other than just the economy. >> pastor jeffers, if i may, i was making the distinction about not just the economy, but deficit and debt. so, i appreciate your desire to